Hitherto Unknown Secrets !

  • When kaltrakaraka is in swa uchhca and mitra navamsa one will get wife from the same or higher caste as per the relative strength of the lagna lord .

  • When kalatrakaraka is in shatru neech navamsa aspected and associated with malefics ,one will marry woman from lower caste .the status of the woman and its family in the social strata will be known by the strength of the karaka .

  • Seventh lord , seventh navamsa and venus and dara karaka whoever is stronger becomes kalatrakaraka .

There are chiefly four castes viz :

  1. Bramhin

  2. Kshatriya

  3. Vaishya

  4. Shudra

In the beginning of the creation only Vedic way of life was prevalent everywhere in the world . Slowly due to intermixing of these catses other cultures sprangup and as these mixed children were given different lands to stay . They were also handed down different code of conduct as per their capacity which over the centuries developed into a different races .

When the four castes intermix they give rise to 16 castes .They are as follows .

Off these when a man of higher catse marries the girl of immediate succeeding caste the children born belong to the caste of Father . When the difference exceeds two castes then the sanskaar is of mothers’s side.

For example Bramhin marrying kshatriya the son born is MOORDHAVASTIKA lives like a bramhin only . So also Kshatriya marrrying Vaishya lives like kshatriya .

Bramhin marrying girl of

  1. vaishya son born is Ambashtha

  2. shudra son is knowm as Nishaad [ parashava]

Bramhin girl marrying boy of

  1. kshatriya son born is Suta

  2. Vaishya son born is Vaidehik

  3. Shudra son born is Chandaal

Kshatriya boy marrying girl of :

  1. shudra son born is known as Ugra

kshatriya girl marrying boy of

  1. vaishya son born is Magadh

  2. shudra son born is Kshatra

Vaishya girl marrying a shudra boy

  1. son born is ayogada .

All the sons born in intercaste marriages where mother is higher than father’s caste and where mother is not a shudra woman are known as Apsada and are eligibe for Veda . And get the upanayana sanskara as per the mothers’ caste . Apsadas can recite mantras without the omkara .

16 castes formed from the intermixing of four castes further when they intermix with the four primary castes , 64 castes arise . All the sons born to woman of vedhadhikara can have upanayana samskara .

Nishaad caste resides with the mother , so Nishaad marrrying shudra woman gives rise to PUKKAS and Shudra marrying Nishaad gives KUKKUTAKA

Kshatra with Ugra girl begets a SHWAPAAK [ one who eats dog’s flesh]

Vaidehik with Ambashtha begets a VEN

When Primary caste of Bramhin Kshatriya and Vaishya leave their sanskaara they become VRATYA .It is generally seen such Vratya only marries the mix castes brought up generally in the womans house of intermixed family .

So Bramhin Vratya gives rise to sons from mixed castes as

  1. Bhurjakantaka [ Bramhin +Prostitute]

  2. Avantya [Bramhin + Magadh]

  3. Vaatdhaan [ Bramhin + Kshatra]

  4. Pushpadha [ Bramhin +Ayogada]

  5. Shaikh [ bedouin] [ Bramhin + Chandaal]

A Kshatriya vratya gives sons as follows in apasadas

  1. Ghulla

  2. Malla

  3. Nicchiva

  4. Nata

  5. Karan

  6. Khasa

  7. Dravida

A Vaishya Vratya begets sons in apasadas as follows

  1. sudhanva

  2. Kaarush

  3. Vijanya

  4. Maitra

  5. Saatvata

Usually premarital sex , incest and Shunning once own culture results into intermixed society .These are further elaborated thus . The more intermixing the lesser will be the qualities of the progeny . Anuloma and pratilomas marrying into their catses give sons equivalent to their fathers .

Danyu marrying a Ayogada gives rise to Sairandhri . Hair styling , massage and hunting are the works fit for these progeny .

Vaidehik marrying a ayogada giving rise to maitra is sweet in conversation and should be allocated the work of ringing bells in Rajmandir or devalaya [ temples]

Nishaads intermixed with ayogada girl will give a margava or Kaivarta is fit for driving boats in the sea or river .

These castes of margav maitra sairadhri do not hesitate to eat from the same plates . They do not have concept of ucchista .

Nishaad in Vaidehi will give KARAVAR , who is adept in sewing the leather . Reverse will give ANDROMEDA who lives away from the villages .

Chandaal in Vaidehi will give Pandusopaak he can deseed or oil the crops . Reverse will give Ahindak who should be employed in jails .

Pukkas in chandaal woman will give SOPAAK he can be given the work of beheading the culprits in jail as per court orders.

Nishaad and chandaal give the son named Antyaavasayi he is empoyed in smashaan [ crematorium] to burn the corpse .

Caste also changes with the tapasya like Vishwamitra .Caste also changes by the power of Beeja like Rushyashringa .

A parashava woman when married to bramhin such marriages in the seventh generation gives rise to Bramhin son . Third generation for ambastha married to Bramhin gives a bramhin son . Similarly for Kshatriya and Vaishyas . This is known as jatyautkarsha .

Kshatriyas after shunning their sanskaras and without the company of bramhins became vrushali [ fallen] . Such fallen Kshatriyas got intermixed to give rise to cultures of

  • Poundraka

  • Odra

  • Dravida

  • kambhoj

  • Yavan[ Greeks]

  • Shaka [ Egyptians]

  • Parad

  • Apahlava

  • China

  • Kiraat [East Asia]

  • Darada [ Africa]

  • khasha [ North East ]

These people started talking languages other than Sanskrit and were mainly indulging in theft and oppression of people they ruled .

Sutas should drive chariots . Ambashthas should look after hospital . Vaidehikas should do service of the forts and palaces . Magadhs are suited for business and commerce.

Nishaad eat fish , Andromeda flesh , ayogava tvasti , and madgus eat jungle birds .

Huntings these also form their work .

Kshatra , Ugra and Pukkas eat animals living in holes and bila . Digvan will make leather and Ven can act as musicians or vessel makers . They can also live on collecting herbs , wood , materials found in caves and forests .

Chandaals can breed donkeys and dogs . They have right over dead . These are nomads . The have jewelleries made of iron and forest output . These can burn unclaimed dead bodies .

Talking harshly and behaving abrashly and less culture are the chief qualities of mixed society . Ahimsa , truth , cleanliness and control over senses are chief qualities of higher birth . Seventh generation of mixed castes girl married to higher catse becomes equal to fathers’ caste .

Seven generation of a Bramhin if indulged in Kingship it becomes Kshatriya , if indulged in Commerce then it becomes Vaishya and if in service then they shudras.

A good person doing a bad act and a bad person doing a good act cannot become equals . So one should always indulge in work which is suited to ones qualities .

In times of calamity Bramhin can live like a Kshatriya when that is not possible he can take up farming and commerce . He should not sell milk , liquids or flesh . .

There is no restriction on living for shudra , he can eat anything he can live as per his choice , there is no binding on him. Such vidhi nishedh should not be forced upon him . If shudra wants to do some dharma karya , he can carry it out without mantras .

Thus 64 castes gives rise to 128 castes . At this point divorce , adultery and remarraiges becomes a habitual quality of the progeny . So two types Kunda and Golakas are segregated to form 256 castes . Kunda and golakas are those born to women from others when husband is alive and second to those when husband is dead .

These children are absolutely freewilled . They do not bind to any kind of rules regulations and culture . Such swechhcharis[ Mletchas] should be guided by the King with the rule of Law .

Krishnarpanamastu .

Comments on: "Varna Vyavastha – Caste system" (45)

  1. neetu said:

    i want to ask that can a bramhin varna of girl marry shudra varna boy…..?

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    • kindly first tell me what is meaning of marriage and its purpose as known and understood by you …. and then i will answer your question …

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  2. brbr2011 said:

    Acharya

    Recently learned from discourse that if one marries outside his caste(vijathi) –one will go to naraka (Name of naraka: Nobodha?) Is it so?

    I think you have said somewhere that we can marry but we have follow some procedure … what is that procedure. is it like marrying to a tree first then marry the person?

    badrinath

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    • Let us speak purely from the shastra point of view .. A person of a caste can marry anyone from his caste and other caste down the order of his caste .. there is no restriction whatsoever ..

      BUT follow procedure means what ?

      A person should always have dharma patni ..a dharma patni is always one belonging to ones own caste and a exception for Bramhins is even a kshatriya women can become a dharma patni for a BRAMHIN boy …
      now here Caste is sanskara ..ie they should have upanayana ie father of khatriya bride should have had upanayana as kshatriya [ in todays world this is not there ] … UPANAYANA does not means just a ritual at the time of marriage ..it is a ritual done at suitable age of the boy to study vedas .. if the next follwoing the rituals the duties are not carried out person becomes vratya … the offsprings of vratya bring lots of sins into society …
      so when marrying vratyas they should have undegone vratyastoma homa and shuddhi karana .to get back dwijatva ..
      if these are not carried out sins acrue …

      now when marrying woman of other caste .. if they cannot become dharma patni …then they can be married only after having a dharma patni …

      technically from numerical point of view .. a bramhin has a weightage of 6 , a kshatriya has weightage of 5, vaishya a weightage of 4 ..
      6*5*4=120 … so an ordinary bramhin will have 120 times more weightage than other castes other than vaishya .. tapasvis will have more points than 120 .. some rishis will have weightages of lakh versus common men ..

      when a bramhin boy marries a other caste .. the offsprings get a weightage somewhere between 0-120 depending upon the sanskaara of the woman married …
      if beeja ie seed … ie Bramhin is tapasvi .. then average sometimes works out to be into thousands far greater than ordinary men .. so sometimes even in such cases a offpsrings are uttam dwijas .. [ but this is not true for antyajas in that case the ofspring will be uttam gyaani only not dwija ]

      but due to marriage .. a BRAMHIN gets reduction of 1/4th of the difference of the weightag eof pffspring and himself .. ie .. if weigtage of bramhin is say 120 … then offspring say comes out to be 80
      then bramhin after having prolonged stay with woman due to marriage .. will automatically become .. 120-40= 80
      /4 = 20

      ie in a scale + for anuloma – for pratiloma

      (-120) woman —————man 0—————————————–(+120) woman
      (-160) offspring …………scale ……………………..80…………. offspring
      (-120)…………..(-40)…scale……..20……………………………new place of bramhin
      in case there is no dharma patni

      so this reduction causes him to be unfit for any karma as prescribed for him in vedas .. and he becomes bereft of karmas and falls into naraka ……

      but if he has a dharma patni .. there will instantaneous reduction of two points for every time he mates the other patni which he can alwasy recoup through vedik karmas in his lifetime ….. and naraka will be avoided ..

      now when marrying in intercaste .. the rules of saptpadi are different ,.. so marraige should be accrodingly done .. only then marriage becomes a sanskaara for woman .. see as upanayana is for men at age of 8 so also marriage is for woman .. as one gets a upadesha guru in upanayana … so also a woman gets a niyat guru in marraige .. as there is janevu for man in upanayana .. so also a mangalsutra for woman in marriage .. as vatu gets danda and bhiksha bowl to remind of his dharma ..so also woman gets a signs of sowbhagya for reminding he of her dharma ….

      so sanskaara should be proper to get proper offspring ..

      NOW all this discussion is valid when think about DHARMA in respect of MArriage .

      civil society does not consider dharma in its evaluation …
      they seek some bizzare logic ..

      while its perfectly allright in civil society for a person to remarry in case of childlessness … marriage for the sake of dharma is seen as some injustice to woman …[ woman being in question the proverbial LOVE ]
      while in above case the emotions of woman are trashed in the name of social obligation .. similarly most KAAMIs give a divorce to aging wife and marry young woman .. even in this case emotions of existing wife is trashed [ not considered ]by civil laws .. and second marraige is upheld .. but when talk of second marraige for the sake of dharma .. there will be all questions raised on womans emotions … ] hypocracy is only word that can describe those actions ..

      those who have faith in dharma .. will act accordingly as marraiges are made in heaven ..

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      • Viju Rao said:

        Dear Sir,
        first of all thank you so much for this wonderful post. one ques.
        “but if he has a dharma patni .. there will instantaneous reduction of two points for every time he mates the other patni”
        tody hindus are not allowed two wives so its clear that boy must marry girl of same caste then? right?
        one more ques is somewhere u said that if father doesn’t marry girl with whom she wishes then he’s born as mleccha in next birth. so girls are free to marry with whoever they wish? what about feelings of parents here..who should bend parents or girl? pls clarify above points.thank you.

        sri krishnarpana.

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        • Father has a right over a girl only till she has first rajodarhsna .. after that a prayshchitta of two rutukalas only and then Girl is free to choose her husband as per shastras ….

          so feelings of parents valid only till rajodarshan ..

          today hindus are not allowed two patnis ” — but does that deter people from having multiple wives .. NO .. society still has people who have more than one wife children also enjoy status of father and acceptance of people is aslo there to such rulers .. and no law dares to touch them or even question them ..

          what the rule has done is create more hypocracy and sadness to people ……never was there a scoiety in history where such a rule of single marraige to only one community and multiple marraiges for other community existed in the name of equality and secularism ,, this just an attempt to reduce ones population .. and our leaders are simple enough to fall into this trap …

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      • brbr2011 said:

        Acharya

        Thanks for the detailed explanation. Ardha-angi… here (50%)of wife’s papa gets transferred to husband and (50%) punya of husband gets transferred to wife.

        why did god do this.papa-punya exchange (this also means karma exchange?)

        In such a scenario.. then husband wiil be reduced (50% of 120)60 points after marriage?

        Badrinath

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      • Viju Rao said:

        Dear Sir,
        but thats no solution. its like lamenting on present condition. right or wrong law of the land must be abided.
        for rutu kala age is 11. prior to that girl can’t be married. it means if a girl falls for a non hindu boy even then parents should get them married without hesitation. this doesn’t make sense. a no way
        out situation then? pls make it more clear.

        sri krishnarpana.

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  3. narayana hari

    namaskaar guruji,

    I am a brahmin boy. Can i marry a kshatriya girl? Is it considered inter cast marriage ? I hear some people saying brahmin and kshatriya are almost same so they could be classified as a similar cast. Is it true ?

    narayana hari

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  4. I M A KASHTRIYA AND I LIKE A BRAHMIN BOY FOR 6 YEARS.EVEN HE LIKES ME.BUT MARRIAGE IS NT POSSIBLE AND WE SEPARATED BUT STIL WE LIKE EACH OTHER THOUGH WE ARE NT IN TOUCH.WHAT SHALL WE DO TO GET BACK TOGETHER AND CONVINCE FOR MARRIAGE

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  5. Pranam Guruji

    I want to marry a brahmin boy but his parents are against as I belong from a kshatriya family.
    So is it possible for a brahmin boy to marry a kshatriya girl ?

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    • yes it is okay

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      • Pranam Guruji

        Thank you for the answer Guruji.
        Is there any ceremony or ritual that has to be performed by any of our family, for us to get married.

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        • panigrahana and saptapadi procedures between boy and girl of anuloma vivaha is different , your priest will tell it …

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          • Acharya, The message I get by reading the comments/ article here is that the anuloma vivaha of a Brahmin boy & Kshatriya girl is well within the accepted norms of Dharma shaastras.
            However, I have heard that in Kaliyuga- there are only 2 castes (as per MBTN? not sure) viz., Brahmin & Shudra & hence such a wedding is not acceptable? Can you and other learned members of the forum throw more light on this please. Thank you.

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            • If the answer expected from SHASTRA point of view .. then after marrying a bramhin girl , one[ bramhna boy ] can marry others [ castes ] except mletchas , it is acceptable

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