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CHAKRA SADHANA

There are six chakras in the human body . So says Brihadaranya upanishad . These chakras are sukshma kendras where Lord resides to control various koshas of the body .The various koshas are , annamaykosha , pranamay kosha , manomay kosha etc ….

The first chakra is mooladhara situated at the point called kanda which is 2inches above the rectum[between anus guda and vrushana testicles ] , it is 4 inches by two inches spherical. ABOVE this kanda is situated a four petals of LOTUS encompassing a TRIKONA AGNI mandal . [ Triangular basin of fire ] The beejaakshar LAM activates this chakra .

The second chakra is MANIPURA situated at the navel [ nabhi] . It is LOTUS of eight petals , encompassing a vayu mandal in shatkona [ hexagon ]. yam is the beejakshar

The third chakra is of anahat  [ hruday chakra ] it consists of eight petals of LOTUS encompassing surya mandal of dwadashkona [ 12 side polygon ] . rum is the beejakshar

The fourth chakra is in vishuddha  INDRAYONI [ near the backside of the tongue ] ,This eight petal LOtus with spherical chandra mandal . ham is the beejakshar.

The fifth is brumadhya chakra of agnya [ forehead ] it consists of  two petals of LOTUS with  trikona agni  mandal . varun beeja is the akshar .

The sixth is 12inches above head is sahasrar  chakra , it consists of 1000 petals of LOTUS inside six petals at base moordhni  and spherical budha  mandal . OM is the beejakshar . turiya is the rupa .

The first three chakras are red in colour and rest are white in colour .

Vasudev etc five rupas o the LORD should be meditated in each chakra .

Vasudev is white in color ,sankarshana is pingala in color , pradyumna is harita in color , aniruddha is neela in color , Narayana is lohita in color .

The mooladhara consists of sushumna which rises till the bramharandra in the head , this is made up of five nadis ie vajrika , arya, avabhasini ,vaidhruta , bramhanadi .

Sushumna[ Narayana ] is surrounded by IDA[ Aniruddha ] to the left  PINGALA                  [ sankarshana] to the right DHARINI[ vasudeva ]  in front and VAJRIKA [ Pradyumna ] in back .

Without seeing the LORD there cannot be moksha . To see him one must engage in shravan manan and after getting his complete knowledge then one can engage in DHYANA and not before that .

There are two types of upasana : Adhyayan Adhyapan is one and DHYAN is second .

DHYAN has limbs like yama niyama asana pranayama .

Pratyahaar dharana dhyan samadhi are for aparoksha ,

Yama means satya asteya ahimsa bramhacharya aparigraha .

Shouch tapasya trupti svadhyaya Haripooja all these are Niyamas .

Svastikaasan , Veerasana , padmasan etc are asanasa .

YagnyaValkya says , not troubling anyone by speech mind and body is known as AHIMSA.

satyam bhutahitam proktam na yatartha bhashanam .

TRUTH is what is beneficial to satvikas and not speaking as is .

Not aspiring[ body and mind and speech ] others wealth and belongings is what is ASTEYA .

Completely avoiding thoughts of sex with  women  by body mind and speech is what is known as BRAMHACHARYA .

Aparigraha : totally isolating self from the worldly pursuits of money mongering and gossip .

Shouch – two types , bahya / antar  . CLEANING the body with water soaps and other cosmetics is bahya shouch . restricting mind from anger lust etc is antah shauch .

Tapasya – concentration[ ekagrata ] of mind and chitta and indriyas is known as tapasya .

ASAN – devata smaran can be done in any position , but dhyana should be in the asana only . if body is fragile , so is mind ,so to get steadfast mind , asan is necessary . PADMASAN is best .

Pranayam ; Rechak poorak and kunbhak are three parts of PRANAYAMA . If pranayam is done without mantra then it becomes preparatoryfor dhyana , if done with mantra and devta smarana [ VISNUM VAYUM SMARET ] then it becomes dhyana itself ,

For MUKTI sadhana shravan is important . those who donot know tattva they must listen to shastras only . Those who have learnt shastra they must do manana to consolidate their learnings , Those who have consolidated the shastras must do dhyana .

BUT Shastra vimarsha [ contemplation ] is 10 times more better than dhyana . ANd hundred times better is teaching atleast one student . EVEN aparokshagyanis teach because HARI is pleased by teaching of shastras ,

In dhyan only few gunas of HARI is what meditated , but while shastra vimarsha there is opportunity to contemplate many qualities of LORD .

SHAUCH and ASAN are means to MOKSHA SADHANA but they themselves are not sadhana so much importance and time should not be spent on only making asanas and shuchi .Otherwise people spend hours in sculpting body with yogasanas .These dont even give punya by themselves ,

Pranayam , aparigraha , ahimsa ,satya,  asteya , bramhacharya , tushti among these , each is greater than other by two times . Shastrabhyasa is one crore times greater . HARIPOOJA is infinite times greater than these . DHYANA is three times better . SHATRA vimarsha and pravachana is manyfolds greater than DHYANA .

One must practise PRANAYAMA for more and more times . One must remove the inner air through pingala and take in fresh air through IDA and hold it in sushumna and then remember VISHNU and VAYU .

If there is break while doing such VISHNU samrana  then it is dharana , if there is no breaks and if it is continous than it is DHYANA . if outer world totally elapses for a sadhak then it is samadhi . SUCH prolonged samadhi gives aparoksha , COntinuous shastra parisheelana [ contemplation also gives aparoksha ] . This should be accompanied by devotion only then aparoksha is possible ,. Affection full of DIVINE KNOWLEDGE of shastras is what known as devotion BHAKTI , This BHAKTI alone is important for  MOKSHA .

krishnarpanamastu

Comments on: "CHAKRA SADHANA" (32)

  1. Hari Raghavendra said:

    Dear aaaummm,
    Even I have read about the so called kriya yoga,normally many practitioners state that it will take more than 10 to 12yrs of practice to reach their so called 4th stage. Even many of their gurus took 30-40 yrs to achieve their so called “final stage”. I have a simple question for these practitioners. If u have practiced bhakthi and mantra chanting for that amt of time regularly, u would have had a mantra siddhi or vision of god . I think rather than following a path where there is no clear road map, many would definitely like to follow bhakthi marga where we know that the final thing is Vaasudeva, we will pray to that yogishvara Krishna to bless us and help us to cross this samsara.
    I also wanted to say one more thing, I have read many autobiographies abt so called kriya yogis, one thing which is striking in all the books is that they all glorify the siddhis many yogis have got thru meditation and the powers of yogis. It seems that they are marketing their product.It looks so tamasic in nature.
    Look at our Guru Sri Raghavendraswamy, in spite of performing so many miracles he humbly accepted that these were not his own powers, rather it’s almighty Lord Krishna.
    Finally I think for crossing this samsara, no extra powers are required except the kripa dhristhi of Kesava. Infact they are a hindrance.

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  2. respected sir,

    how and under whom may this chakra sadana be practised?

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  3. Chiraan-ji,

    Can you give me the reference as to where the chakras are described this way in the Brihadaranyaka upanishad? You have missed Svadhistana chakra and the beejas for the chakras are not the usual, so i want to understand why you have it so different.

    Namaskar

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    • svadhishthana is not mentioned in upanishads , it is always shadchakra . the other smaller chakras are mentioned in karan granthas like nadi kalpalata , upapuranas etc . all the satvik purana s give shadchakra only .
      beeja mantras ae from pancharatra . yes you are right we have it very different from others because everywhere there is advaitopasana . the chakras form basis for upasana , the kundalini can be risen in both constructive and destructive ways . so also methodologt changes , till date many advaitis who are sincere in yoga sadhana complain that with their beeja sadhana and chakra understandings they could reach agnya chakra easily but never could pierce sahasrar . Any attempt to do so would elapse their energy back to mulesh ,
      the concept of piercing sahsrar is samanya aparoksha which is not possible for common man , aparoksha cannot be had without getting a view of mulesh and agresh .
      thus beejas should be right and in coherence with Mulesh and Agresha rupas of Hari .

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  4. Unselfish love is a feeling you can tap into, similar to the love a mother or father has for a child. You can expand this feeling towards all sentient beings. This is the love our creator holds for us. We can share in it. Meditate upon it. You may find that unselfish love is the primal energy that powers this universe.

    Sharing unselfish love with universal entities and planetary bodies is a modification of a Qi-Gong exercise called,

    “the 5 organ inner smile.”

    http://www.universal-tao.com/article/smile.html

    In which you send and receive love energy from the sun into your 5 main organs.

    There are many paths up the mountain Chiraan. The Self appears to everyone in different form, which best suits the aspirant.

    It seems arrogant to believe one way is superior or ‘right.’

    The Vedas do hold truth. Also new spiritual exercises evolve over time which also hold truth.

    Your posts here seem to be prone to misunderstanding and are also quick to judge, without properly digesting what is being discussed. These may be symptoms of an inflated ego.

    I wonder if you practice yoga?

    Please spend a moment to look at the link below, I would like your opinion on this Mahavatar

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavatar_Babaji

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    • When talking about philosophy one must resort to strong pramanas .
      In the name of pramanas all that you could offer till now is your imaginative halucinations and wikepedia links . TRUTH is not established i this manner with wikipedia links .

      Lets examine your statements again

      1.The Vedas do hold truth

      ans :It only VEDIC teachings hold truth

      2. Also new spiritual exercises evolve over time which also hold truth.

      ans This statement has no support of experience or scriptures . Its self declared
      Let us say IF X says , there is extreme benefit by exercises of lower organs . ANd someone halucinates that by doing so a bright light light is seen and and self wanders into netherworlds ,
      AND X creates a wikipedia for it saying Y had realised self by indulging in this cosmic/nether GONG
      will it still be called TRUTH .
      HOW would you distinguish such TRUTHS . As according you even this is also way which cannot be disputed as wrong . IE everything is right so let KRIYA yoga be also called right is your stance .

      TRUTH cannot vary with experiences if INDIVIDUAL else it stops being truth

      3.Your posts here seem to be prone to misunderstanding and are also quick to judge, without properly digesting what is being discussed
      ANS : isnt this quick judgement from YOU . without discussing properly the CONCEPT .

      4. These may be symptoms of an inflated ego.
      ans AGAIN there is may be in your statement , you do not seem to be confident of anything .
      With so many ‘may be ,imagine , ‘ etc words you say you are talking TRUTH . when contradicted and when ADVAITIS run out of words and LOGIC , They talk about arrogance ,inflated ego . WHY does your UNselfish LOVE not digest that there is spritual bankruptsy . SUDDENLY a slight anguish has crept in to your most LOVING YOGIC mind to personally talk about other’s ego and arrogance . YOUr LOVE should have continued . There is clear LACK of UNIVERSAL LOVE and what is preached is not practised because such a shuttle of LOVE does not exist it derails with little cross examination ,

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      I wonder if you practice yoga?
      My blog is full of references to YOGA as per scriptures , and every BRAMHIN in his daily prayers incorporates YOGA , pranayama . These is universally KNOWN but not to pseudo YOGIS .
      IS this statement of yours not a quick judgement on your part .,
      I hope there will be scores to point out your haste and anguish which is UNYOGIC . and evident ,

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      • Hi 3AUm

        I am just a regular person.. Not a yogi or learned like you all…. I have been reading chiraan for the astrology for the past 1 years now…. And one thing I will say about Chiraan that he is very sure and definitive about his beliefs… I have read many a blogs/books about the truth and most are beating about the bush.. Where they know a bit .. experienced something here n there and write about it… But Chiraan seems to be firm about what he knows.. I think you should read about madhvacharya and you will see where chiraan gets his knowledge from. I had a professor in college who seemed very arrogant to all students.. he would shoot down the just about right answers with tremendous zeal… Unless your answer was perfect he did not acknowledge it.. It was not because he was egoistic but his knowledge of the subject he taught was the best….I see similar style with Chiraan……Just an observation

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  5. Respected members

    Gyana (about Sri Hari-SARVATOMMA, And Vayu is Jeevotam)
    Bhakti In sri Hari which should be Nirmal(unadultred)
    Vairagya-(detachment from Materalistaic world)
    is the essence of vedas and shastras.
    Without these three things we cannot achieve any spiritual upliftment.
    That is the truth (Satya).Rest everything is temporary.
    Thanks
    Pramod.

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  6. Chiraanavre,

    You have mentioned Sahasrar chakra as having 12 petals. Is’nt it a 1000 petals and hence the name sahasrar
    Also what do you mean by petals of chakras? Like those of Lotus Flower ?

    Please let us know the texts where the chakras are described.

    Jai Bharateesha,
    Hrishikesh

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    • chakra is in the form of lotus flower with petals , sahsrar is the thousand rays that emanate . BUt acharya srimadanand teertha never used these names . chakras are described in brihadaranya , tantra sara , chandogya upanishads ,

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  7. My dear tripleAu3m
    Upanishads are part of vedas , Vedas clearly describe Om , BRAMHA as VISHNU only ,[ read narayonapanishat ] KATHA upanishad cannot differ from NARAYANOPANISHAT as both are vedas and all words in VEDAS are TRUTH . taking things in isolation is not the Vedic culture .

    I dont know which babaji you are mentioning , the BHAGAVAT clearly mentions the qualities of jeevanmukta [ kaivalya ] , does this babaji exhibit any such qualities please make known .

    NOW whenever contradictions in statement is pointed out , it is usual advaitis [ and followers of patanjali ] divert by saying it is just an analogy . like snake/rope silver/shell .

    philosophies are established on facts and scriptures and not on hallucinations and analogies . when one analogy fails one switches to another endlessly .
    The previous post of yours clearly mentioned
    1 act of kriya yoga is awakening from dream , yet kaivalya is only awakened state .
    2.That means entire sadhana itself is carried out in dream state .
    3. NOw if you are trying to say just as one starts kriya yoga he becomes awakened , Your own previous statements deny this [ contradicts this ] .
    4.That means , before awakening [ ie kaivalya ] dream state is still continuing .
    5.Now you have yourself stated DREAM is not REAL
    6.that means the entire Kriya YOGA before AWAKENING [ KAIVALYA ] is not REAL a dream .
    7. SO the exercise of shuttling LOVE to and fro to unknown in unknown form is just a DREAM and not real and hence useless act .

    WHy is it useless ? Because this is undefined indiscrimanate !

    The sending of LOVE rays to and forth according to your own statement is to draw energy for further progress in kriya , though it is not related to Samadhi nor useful for it . This is selfish desire of increasing once worth [ oBVIOUSLY if there were no results of self gain not even a fool would attempt such a practise . so desire exists in attaining siddhi which is not helpful for kaivalya ]
    NOW LOVE with desire cannot be universal because ] such viz
    LOVE towards another’s woman is known as moha or LUST . [ this harmful ]
    LOVE towards same gender is sometimes confused as GAY
    LOVE towards a snake will only cause a poisonous bite
    LOVE towards wild animals will result in untimely death
    Love towards thorny shrubs results in wounds .
    So indiscriminate LOVE is prohibited

    So LOVE towards UNKNOWN place which perhaps none knows whether it contains other woman , animals or snakes or shrubs is indiscriminate LOVE .

    UNIVERSE does not run on indiscriminate LOVE .
    It runs on sane GOVERNANCE of LORD [ VISHNU is chiefly the palankarta ,stithikarta VAYU is the chief instrument ]

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  8. Respected acharya Namaskars,

    Divine experience.
    Is this Yoga Narasimha Devara photo,where is this temple.

    Thanka

    Pramod.

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  9. >abc
    From my own practice I have sensed three chakras above Saharara, they fork out from Saharara in a trident shape.

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    • respected sir,

      can you throw some light on the practise that you are undergoing and also if possible tell more about the chakras that are beyond the sahasrara

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      • Respected Sir,

        Kriya yoga is the main practice I am undergoing:

        http://aaaummm.wordpress.com/

        I have also experienced intuitions concerning the higher chakras through the use of crystals, and through Hemi-sync exercises.

        The three higher chakras seem to be energy gateways in which one can pull or send energy trans-dimensionally. I believe the chakra directly above Sahasrara to be connected to the causal realm.

        I have found through experimentation, if you send love energy from the heart up, through the thousand petaled lotus, then through the higher chakra with the intention of sending love out of our universe, a line of energy can be sent to other realms.

        If you send love out and whilst it is travelling at the speed of consciousness, out of our universe, turn off all thoughts, holding the mind empty, this gives the love energy the extra kick it needs to make it out of our own universe into other realms.

        By sending love energy to another realm it will invariably make contact with other consciousness. Once a link is formed, love can be sent back and forth between the two realms. The wondorous snowball effect from sending and recieving love, trans-dimensionally, raises ones own energy levels exponentially.

        Initially you can practice sending and recieving love to planetary bodies in our own solar system, through Sahasrara. As you become more adept at this practice the higher chakras will activate which allow the sent and recieved love energy to be strenghtened into a potent laser like ray, which is capable of traversing the vast distances involved.

        I hope my preliminary experiments will be of some use to you,

        Namaste.

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        • AND what purpose will be solved by sending LOVE back and forth like lasers to some unknown land which we have never seen ?

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          • The ancient Rishis maintained that the average person utilises merely 1% of their brain matter, which is located all through the spinal column, not just in th head, as well as outbranching nervous ganglia and neurons in the major organs.

            Patanjali postulates that as a yogin becomes established in the eight limbs of yogic practice, the brain matter realises it is safe to start to awaken. This awakening allows the yogin to process large amounts of cosmic energy, needed for the higher states of consciousness experienced as the yogin becomes ‘illumined’.

            Attainment of yogic siddhis are signposts along the way that show the yogin is making progress.

            The practicing yogin neds to find new ways to pull, store and utilise energy.

            The causal realm is said to be the abode of our true ‘Self’. It is possible to make contact with this Self and utilise its vaster energy in order to experience greater depths of cosmic consciousness. These cosmic experiences are extremely miraculous and blissful, which is probably the reason why millions of seekers spend so much time, effort and energy in order to experience even a brief mystical moment.

            Some people call this true Self God.

            Many purport the true purpose of life is to realise this Self.

            So it is not so much a purpose to be solved but a method of experiencing greater levels of bliss with the ultimate goal being actual to actually achieve God consciousness.

            This may seem far fetched to those without any mystical knowledge, maybe even arrogant to suggest a human being can experience what it is to be a God,

            but all the ancient sages say it is so,

            and believe me, once you have a taste of God consciousness you will realise that everything in your life so far has been of the quality of a dream.

            Imagine you only knew of the dream world and your only experience was of dreaming, then one day you woke up!

            How would normal reality seem to you?

            Now imagine you woke up from normal reality into Cosmic Consciousness.

            Would you ever wish to go back to sleep?

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            • I am wondering at so many words like ” may be, imagine ” , ! why is it that your cosmic experiences are not definitive . ANd why should it not be taken that dream state is still continuing ! what is the exact experience that has convinced you that you have awakened !

              And is it not just a great strain to keep drawing the extra energy from some unknown world only to sustain the dream state ?
              What is the final consciousness that you must know where you say okay I stop playing football with LOVE back and forth through cosmic lasers and I am stabilised . IS there any human alive who has said yes I AHVE achieved this ?

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              • Respected fellow,

                I shall attempt to answer your enquiries;

                My definite experiences are chronicled here;

                http://aaaummm.wordpress.com/

                The use of words such as maybe and imagine are designed to help someone who has no experience of a certain state to concieve of said states being possible.

                Before I experienced such states I was unable to accept that consciousness hid such treasure.

                “ANd why should it not be taken that dream state is still continuing ! ”

                The dream state occurs usually four times in one sleep episode. When we wake up, the dream state is simply no longer continuing.

                “And is it not just a great strain to keep drawing the extra energy from some unknown world only to sustain the dream state ?”

                I think you may have misunderstood. The energy sending and recieving is carried out in the waking state. Sending and recieving love is never a strain, it is a continual joy.

                “What is the final consciousness that you must know where you say okay I stop playing football with LOVE back and forth through cosmic lasers and I am stabilised .”

                Samadhi is said to have nine stages.

                Kaivalya is said to be the highest or final state to be reached.

                Though I fear you may have again misunderstood.

                Sending and recieving energy is simply one method of increasing ones own energy capacity and not a method used to directly experience Samadhi.

                Becoming stabilised happens through balancing ones life. This is a side product of practising kriya yoga but not the end goal.

                “IS there any human alive who has said yes I AHVE achieved this ?”

                I have not met him/her personally.

                Though I have read about such people.

                Kriya yoga would hold Babaji to be such a one.

                I imagine through the different schools of mystical science, such as; yoga, sufism, kaballah, zen, taoism etc People have realised God conciousness. Though,

                “Only a few ever hear these truths; of those who hear, only a few understand, and of those only a handful attain the goal.”

                Katha Upanishad

                Answer me a question if you will –

                What else of worth is there to do in this life?

                I hope I shall always continue sending and recieving love.

                I am sending some to you now..

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              • in your previous posts
                we can gather that

                1.MEN ARE GENERALLY IN DREAM STATE . MOST OF THE ISSUES IN DREAM ARE UNREAL. JUST AS THE PAIN JOY ETC IN DREAM ARE ALL UNREAL AND HAVE NO REAL BEARING ONTO REAL LIFE AND HOLD NO MEANING ONCE WE AWAKEN . SO ALSO WHEN WE ATTAIN KAIVALYA WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE HAD UNDERGONE WAS ALL DREAM .

                ANS :: THAT means before achieving kaivalya the dream state is continuing . so sending cosmic lasers seems still an act in dream .
                thirdly you admit that
                sending love back and forth is not means to samadhi , but samadhi is necessary for kaivalya , so sending back and forth lasers is useless exercise and joy it derives is still a dream .

                2. “IS there any human alive who has said yes I AHVE achieved this ?”

                I have not met him/her personally.
                but this is standard answer everyone gives , none seems to have ever known anyone with such consciousness , nor anyone has openly declared till date that I have known or achieved the consciousness . So why it cannot be concluded that such people never existed !

                3. I imagine through the different schools of mystical science, such as; yoga, sufism, kaballah, zen, taoism etc People have realised God conciousness.

                ans; again you seem to be imagining the important issue .

                4. “Only a few ever hear these truths; of those who hear, only a few understand, and of those only a handful attain the goal.”

                Katha Upanishad

                ans : here for the first time you have taken recourse to scripture saying such people existed through katha upanishad .
                BUT here KATHA upanishad is talking about the TRUTH known by greats . WHAT is this TRUTH ?
                TRUTH is that VISHNU is the SUPREME LORD and HE is to be known by meditation as manifested in PRANAVA .

                I can give you relevant quotes fromKATHA upanishad . KATHA is not talking about some cosmic lasers to be sent to and forth or about some unknown consciousness which no one has ever experienced , It is talking about the sakshatkara of lORD VISHNU as supreme with infinite auspicious qualities , who is essentially different from US . the soul within us ,

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              • The dream state was used as an analogy, i.e becoming illumined is like waking up from reality.
                Reality is not a dream my friend. It is real.

                Sending and receiving love is not a useless act. This universe runs on the power of love.

                I have stated that Babaji is a living person who has experienced kaivalya.

                The Katha Upanishad does not even mention Vishnu. Maybe you are confusing Vishnu with Brahman?

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              • Hrishikesh said:

                @All,

                This is a classic example of the extent to which advaita is prevailing today. advaita is very loosely defined; so each author has his own interpretation. People after shankara corrected his works and said this is what he actually meant.
                When Sri Vyasarajaru, wrote the Nyayaamruta, he collected all the different and loose definitions of advaita, summarized them and then criticqued them. So perfect is his work, that advaita scholars recommend reading NyayaAmruta in order to understand advaita.
                The genius and calibre of Sri Vyasarajaru is such that, advaita scholars ask people to read Nyaya amruta to actually understand advita better.

                Coming to the main point

                If you google chakras, you’ll find scores of theories and pages of results. How to distinguish them, each one claims to be true?

                I want to address this issue as more generic one and then talk about Kriya Yoga in specific.

                Throughout history and scriptures, you’ll find scores of people doing all types of Sadhane. There is one common factor in all of them; unless it is directed to Sri Krishna it is all a waste of time.

                There are scores of methods, meditations, practises out there in the Neo-Vedanta market.
                Neo-Vedanta means a quote or two from scriptures, and the rest are theories around the quote. Rather than trying to understand the quote, they try to fit the quote to their practice.
                It’s like a remixed song, with some shlokas in between; having people say wah wah what a song 🙂

                Now why is the Kriya Yoga explaination given so far advaita ?
                1# Nirguna upasana – You meditate on sending love to some universe? Any gunas ?
                2# No clear cut definition of upasane –
                Sending love to Whom? Dunno?
                How much love ? Not Sure ? Love for child is differnt from Love for Wife different from Love for Parents different from Love for Friends different from Love for humanity. All Love but which Love to send ?
                Why do I love someone out there ? Dunno Practically, how do I love someone/something/some place I don’t know? I need to know this, because of dharma sookshma.
                Sadhane has to be like Arjuna seeing the eye of the sparrow and nothing else. Do you honestly believe that the meditation you described is like that.
                3# No Concept of God – If the philosophy does not mention dasatva or bimba-pratibimba; step away. Sri Hanuman and Sri Krishna mention that this is the most important aspect.
                4# No clear destination – What is the definitve end point of the meditation? Samadhi is not an end point. It’s a state.

                There are hundreds of meditations, all of them give sense of achievment and feel real. You feel energy flowing through you etc. etc.
                You should not tamper with chakras unless you know what you are doing.

                Let me give you an example, if you just make the replace the engine with a more powerful one, the car can’t stop. If you make the wheels bigger, power will go down. If you put some rocket fuel, it’s catch fire.
                Basically, you can’t just fiddle or jazz up something and expect the problem to be solved.

                There is one way however where the whole car will be upgraded, the spiritual wattage will increase, etc. The age old testament of Rishi’s “The Gayatri Mantra”.
                It all boils down back to Sandhyavandane. Doing a 100 japas @least once a day for a month with dedication; should be enough to convince you about the power.

                Personally, I’ve tried scores of meditations and attunements, not one comes even close to Sandhyavandana. Jai Sri Ram !!!

                So in a nutshell, although it seems that you have picked up some lines from the scriptures, what you are following is a neo vedanta thought; that has no backing of the scriptures.
                Sri Vyasarajaru has written Nyaya Amruta to show how to identify advaita in every form and how to refute them. Don’t fall into such traps, read Tattvavada and join the path to Moksha.

                Also everybody, this is how advaita spreads nowadays in the garb of meditation/healing etc

                Jai Vyasaraya !
                Jai Vijayraya !
                Jai Bharateesha !!!
                Hrishikesh

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              • My dear tripleAu3m
                Upanishads are part of vedas , Vedas clearly describe Om , BRAMHA as VISHNU only ,[ read narayonapanishat ] KATHA upanishad cannot differ from NARAYANOPANISHAT as both are vedas and all words in VEDAS are TRUTH . taking things in isolation is not the Vedic culture .

                I dont know which babaji you are mentioning , the BHAGAVAT clearly mentions the qualities of jeevanmukta [ kaivalya ] , does this babaji exhibit any such qualities please make known .

                NOW whenever contradictions in statement is pointed out , it is usual advaitis [ and followers of patanjali ] divert by saying it is just an analogy . like snake/rope silver/shell .

                philosophies are established on facts and scriptures and not on hallucinations and analogies . when one analogy fails one switches to another endlessly .
                The previous post of yours clearly mentioned
                1 act of kriya yoga is awakening from dream , yet kaivalya is only awakened state .
                2.That means entire sadhana itself is carried out in dream state .
                3. NOw if you are trying to say just as one starts kriya yoga he becomes awakened , Your own previous statements deny this [ contradicts this ] .
                4.That means , before awakening [ ie kaivalya ] dream state is still continuing .
                5.Now you have yourself stated DREAM is not REAL
                6.that means the entire Kriya YOGA before AWAKENING [ KAIVALYA ] is not REAL a dream .
                7. SO the exercise of shuttling LOVE to and fro to unknown in unknown form is just a DREAM and not real and hence useless act .

                WHy is it useless ? Because this is undefined indiscrimanate !

                The sending of LOVE rays to and forth according to your own statement is to draw energy for further progress in kriya , though it is not related to Samadhi nor useful for it . This is selfish desire of increasing once worth [ oBVIOUSLY if there were no results of self gain not even a fool would attempt such a practise . so desire exists in attaining siddhi which is not helpful for kaivalya ]
                NOW LOVE with desire cannot be universal because ] such viz
                LOVE towards another’s woman is known as moha or LUST . [ this harmful ]
                LOVE towards same gender is sometimes confused as GAY
                LOVE towards a snake will only cause a poisonous bite
                LOVE towards wild animals will result in untimely death
                Love towards thorny shrubs results in wounds .
                So indiscriminate LOVE is prohibited

                So LOVE towards UNKNOWN place which perhaps none knows whether it contains other woman , animals or snakes or shrubs is indiscriminate LOVE .

                UNIVERSE does not run on indiscriminate LOVE .
                It runs on sane GOVERNANCE of LORD [ VISHNU is chiefly the palankarta ,stithikarta VAYU is the chief instrument ]

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              • this is really enlight

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              • Unselfish love brother.

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              • Unselfish LOVE , what is its definition ? towards whom ?
                SO THe exrecise of sending LOVE is not for drawing energy as you have previously stated .

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              • wow! thank a lot chiraan ji. such an useful information for everyone

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              • for the sake of readability I have reposted the previous ans to start new thread .

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  10. respected sir,

    it is really a great eye-opening article…. sir if i may ask… i have read in some esoteric books ( i don’t remember the names..) thaat there are chakras beyond the saharara.. is it true and if possible can you please throw some light on this ?

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