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पीठे रत्नोपक्लप्ते रुचिररुचिमणिज्योतिषा सन्निषण्णं ब्रह्माणं भाविनं त्वाम् ज्वलति निजपदे वैदिकाद्या हि विद्याः।     सेवंते मूर्तिमत्यः सुचरितचरितम् भातिगंधर्वगीतम् प्रत्येकम् देवसंसत्स्वपि तव भगवन्नर्तितद्योवधुषु ॥

अर्थ ः –

  1. सुचरित ‘ – सबसे श्रेष्ठ आचरणवाले हे मध्वाचार्य
  2. ” निजपदे” – आपके स्वयोग्य पद जो कि सत्यलोक मे है।
  3. “रुचिर ” – मन को  एकप्रकार से आकर्षित करने वाली
  4. रुचि ” – प्रकाशमय
  5. “मणि ” – माणिक्यों के
  6. ” ज्योतिशा ” – किरणों से
  7. ” ज्वलति ” – प्रकाशित
  8. ” रत्न ” – रत्नो से (नवरत्न )
  9. ” उपक्लप्ते ” – सुसज्जित
  10. ” पीठे ” – सिंहासन पर
  11. ” सन्निषण्णं ” – चक्रवर्ति योगय वैभव से युक्त आस’न्न
  12. “भाविनम् ब्रह्माणम् “-  आगे आने वाले कल्प मे ब्रह्म पदवि पर विराजमाान होने वाले
  13. “त्वाम् ” – आप ,
  14. ” वैदिकाद्या ” – वेद संबंधी विद्या इत्यादि विद्याभिमानिदेवताआों द्वारा
  15. “मूर्तिमत्यः सत्यः ” – अपने निजस्वरूप को स्वीकारकर
  16. ” सेवंते “- ओ मध्वाचार्य आपकी सेव मे संलग्न हैँ
  17.  “अपि ” – एवं
  18. “भगवन ” – एैश्वर्यादि सकल गुणो से परिपूर्ण हे गुरुराज
  19. ” नर्तत ” –  नर्तन करते हुये
  20. “द्योवधुषु ” – देवलोक मे वास करनेवाली अप्सराएें
  21. “देवसंसत्सु ” – देवसभाओं मे
  22. प्रत्येकं “-  हर एक एेसे अन्य लोको के सभाओं मे
  23. “गंधर्वगीतम् ” – गंधर्व नामक देवलोक के संगीतकारो द्वारा गायन
  24. ” तव ” – आपके
  25. “चरितम् “- चरित्र कि गाथा आौर महिमा
  26. ” भाित ” – सुशोभित है
  27. “हि” – आौर यह विषय सर्वत्र अतिप्रसिद्ध  है

तात्पर्य ः- सकलवेदविद्याभिमानि देवता अपने निजस्वरूप मे शरीर स्वीकार कर श्रीमध्वाचार्यजी (जो कि सत्यलोक मे अति प्रकाशमय नवरत्न खचित, मणियों से सुसज्जित सिंहासन पर विराजमान है अौर आगे भावी कल्प मे ब्रह्मा के पदवी पर अानेवाले  हैं)  की सेवा मे संलग्न है इस महिमा का गुणगान सर्व देवसभाआो मे अप्सराएेँ नर्तन करते हुये ,गंधर्व गायन करते है यह इस श्लोक से बोध होता है ।

विस्तार ः-

कलि अौर इतर दैत्यो के प्रवेश से सभी सज्जन अौर देवता प्रायः कभी कभी शास्त्र विरुद्ध मार्ग का अाचरण करते है । लेकिन ऋुजुगणों मे दैत्यावेश नामक दोष न होने के कारण वे सर्वथा शास्त्र विरुद्ध कार्य का आचरण नही करते है अौर एैसे आचरण के संदर्भ उनके जीवन मे सर्वथा नही आते है ।केवल शास्त्र सम्मत कर्म मे आसक्त होने के कारण अौर सदगुण परिपूर्ण होने से इनको “सुचरित” विशेषण उपयुक्त है ।

ऋुजुगण अनादि काल से हरी के विशेष अनुग्रहार्थ तपस्या मे तल्लीन हैं । इनमे सबसे अधिक साधना का श्रेय प्रथम ब्रह्माजी को है अौर तदनंतर हे वायुदेव आपका है ।आपके उपरांत लातव्यजी का है अौर बाद गव्यजी का है।अनेक ऋुजुगण एक समान योग्यता के होने पर भी अपने अपने तपस्या अवधी के तारतम्यानुसार सत्यलोक मे अपने अपने स्थानो को गृहण करते हैं । इसमे ब्रह्माजी का स्थान अग्रगण्य है । ब्रह्माजी के मुक्तावस्था को प्राप्त होने पर , इस स्थान के दावेदार अाप स्वयं श्री वायुदेव हैं । वायुदेव के स्थान पर लातव्य अौर लातव्य के स्थान पर गव्य विराजमाान होंगे । इसी क्रम से इतर ऋुजुगण अपने स्थानो मे उन्नति पायेंगे। अौर क्रम से ब्रह्मा के पद को प्राप्त कर मुक्ती को प्राप्त होते हैं। ब्रह्म पदवी के प्राप्त होने पर ऋुजुगणों को सत्यलोक का अधिपत्य जो कि 14 लोको का अधिपत्य भी है वह प्राप्त होता है । इसी कारण से सत्यलोक को ऋुजुगणों का “निजपद “ के रूप मे कहागया है ।

ऊपर कहे गये सर्व विषयो को अाधारकर प्रस्तुत ब्रह्माजी के मुक्त होने पर आप उस पद पर विराजमान होंगे इसलिये हे वायुदेव आपको भावी ब्रह्मा के रूप मे जाना जाता है ।

समस्त ऋुजुगणों से भी अधिक तपस्या करने से आप अग्रगण्य हैं इसलिये आप सुचरित हैं । अौर सत्यलोक का सिंहासन आपकी प्रतीक्षा मे हैं , इस पर आपका निज अधिकार हैं ,इसलिये आप इसके सत्यलोक के युवराज हैं ।युवराज के लिये सिंहासन अपना होता है , अर्थात सिंहासन ‘ पद ‘ युवराज का अपना अर्थात ‘निज’ है ।ब्रह्माजी का सत्यलोक का पद श्रीवायुदेव के लिये ‘निजपद’ है । आपके आधिपत्य के योग्य पद ।

ऋुजुगण सभी सत्यलोक मे ब्रह्माजी को प्रधान पद पर , आपको युवराजपद पर नियुक्तकर अपने अपने योग्य पदों पर तारतम्यानुसार विराजमाान होकर श्रीहरि की आराधना करते हैं ।

आपसे सुशोभित इस आसन के वैभव का गाान करते हैं । आपका सिंहासन नवरत्नखचित है । उसमे उत्तम माणिक्य है । प्रत्येक मणि ,अनेको सूर्य के एक साथ उदय होने पर जो प्रकाश होता है , उस समान तेज से सुसज्जित है अौर नेत्र को भेदने का सामर्थ्य रखने वाले  प्रकाश से सुशोभित आपका सिंहासन है जिस पर आप युवराजयोग्य वैभव से  स्थित है । आप ! अनेक इतर युवराजों कि तरह  गर्व को प्रदर्शित करते हुए ,अहंकार से युक्त होकर सिंहासन पर नही बैठे है । श्रीहरि के अनुगृह से प्राप्त यह स्थान ,मुझे कर्तव्य निर्वाहन के लिये मिला है , इसका परिपालन हरि की सेवा है , इस भावना से , हरि को मनःपूर्वक एकनिष्ठ तरीके से स्मरण करते हुये ,हरि स्मरण से आनंद का अनुभव करते हुये अक्षों से अश्रुओं को बहाते हुये , हरिभक्तों के कल्याण की कामना करते हुये अौर उसके हेतु हि कार्यक्रमों का निर्वाहण करते हुए आप सिंहासन पर विराजमान  हैं । इस विषय को “संनिषण्णं “ शब्द से सूचित किया है । अौर उसी समय …

वेद इत्यादि अपौरुषेय ( किसी भी व्यक्ती द्वारा न रचा गया अौर अनादि काल से उपलब्ध) एवं पौरुषेय अर्थात वेदव्यास आदि हरि के अवतारोंद्वारा अौर उनके शिष्यवृंदों द्वारा रचे गये मूलरामायण पंचरात्रागम इ॰ ग्रंथो को विद्या के रूप मे जाना जाता है । इनसभी विद्याओं के अभिमानी देवता, हे वायुदेव आपकी सदा सेवा करते रहते हैं। अन्य लोको मे यह विद्याएें कभी प्रत्यक्ष मे तो कभी अदृश्य रूप मे स्थित रहकर  सेवा करते रहते हेै । लेकिन सत्यलोक मे ये विद्याएँ अपने निज शरीर को धारण कर मूलरूप से आपकी सेवा मे संलग्न रहते है। यह विशेष है ।

आपने भूलोक मे जन्म लेकर श्रीमन्मध्वाचार्य के नाम से प्रसिद्धि प्राप्त की ।आपने इस अवतार मे अनेक विद्याओं के अपव्याख्यान को निराकरण कर यथार्त को घोषित किया अौर इन विद्याओं को कृतार्थ किया । इस रक्षाकार्य एवं उपकार का स्मरण करते हुये इन विद्याओं के अभिमानीदेवता आपकी सेवा मे अपने मूलरूप मे प्रस्तुत हैं ।इसमे कोई आशचर्य नही ( रक्षक कि सेवा )

ओ मध्वराया ! एैशवर्य इ॰ गुण रुद्रदेव इ॰ सभी देवताओं मे भी पाएे जाते हैं । लेकिन आपमे यह सर्वाधिक हैं । इसीलिये ‘भगवान” यह उपाधि आपको सुशोभित है ।

देवलोक मे संगीतकारों मे गंधर्व नामक संगीतकार अतिप्रसिद्ध है । देवलोक मे नर्तन करनेवाले स्त्रियो मे अतिश्रेष्ठ श्रेणि के स्त्रियो को अप्सरा शब्द से संबोधित किया जाता है । हरि के अनुग्रह से इन अप्सराओं को सभी लोको मे वास करने की योग्यता उपलब्ध है । भिन्न भिन्न लोको मे भी देव सभा्एें है । उन समस्त लोको के देव सभाओं मे आपके भक्तगण ये गंधर्व अौर अप्सराएेँ ,आपके अवतार ( हनुम भीम मध्व ) मे अौर मूलरूप मे किये गये लीलाओं का गुणगान गायन द्वारा करते रहते है अौर उस गायन के अनुरूप  अपसराएें मधुर आभिनयन उत्तम नर्तन  करती है । इससे सभा मे उपस्थित सभी देवता एवं ऋुषिगण भक्ती मे लीन होकर खो जाते है  । “हि ” शब्द का प्रयोग कर श्री त्रिविक्रम पंडिताचार्य कहते है …हे मध्वाचार्या ! यहाँ  वर्णित अनेक विषय , मै अपनी कल्पना से नही कह रहा हूँ वरन् यह बात अनेक असंख्यप्रमाणो से स्वयंसिद्ध है ।एेसे समस्त लोको मे अतिप्रसिद्ध आपके असंख्य गुणों अौर माहिमाओं का संपूर्ण वर्णन करना असंभव है ।आपके गुण अौर महिमा अपरिमित है ।

श्रीकृष्णार्पणमस्तु ॥

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The above shloka is from HARIVAYUSTUTI composed by Shri Trivikrampanditacharya in praise of Shrimanmadhvacharya …

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The words in the shloka and their brief meaning are thus –

  1. sucharita   – o’ madhvarya , your conduct is one of only auspiciousness and ever virtuous ,hence you are sucharita charitam
  2. nijpade – The position befitting your status and self righteously own ie the ownership of satyaloka
  3. ruchir – one attracting the minds incessantly
  4. ruchi – the glare ,glow of
  5. mani- the rubies
  6. jyotisha – the rays
  7. jwalati – emanating from
  8. ratna – gems [nine types of jewels ]
  9. upklupte – set in
  10. peethe – throne of
  11. sannishaNNam –  seated befittingly like a prince [ Emperor in waiting ]
  12. Bhavinam bramhaNam – The futuristic Bramha [ in next creation ]
  13. tvaam – thyself
  14. vaidikadya – vedas and other auxiliary studies and literature and its deities incharge
  15. moortimatyah satyah – in their most primal forms in person attending to
  16. sevante – in service of shri VAYUDEV
  17. api – and
  18. bhagvan – one complete in wealth and prosperity
  19. nartat – dancing
  20. dyovadhushu – the apsaras [nymphs] of the devlokas
  21. devsansatsu – in the devsabhas [courts of devatas ]
  22. pratyekam – ine every such devsabhas in each of the various lokas
  23. gandharvageetam –  songs sung by gandharvas
  24. tav – your
  25. charitam –  greatness and various acts of valor of VAyudev
  26. bhati – unparalleled ,gloriously displayed
  27. hi – thus famously renown everywhere in each loka ..

excerpt – Oh Madhvacharya ! the vedas and other shastras like panchartra etc and its diety incharge always personally attend to your service in person in their original primal form [moolrupa ] as You are seated on the throne [which is bejewelled with nine types of precious stones and specially fatastically glowing rubies ]of Satyaloka befitting a crown prince , as You are the future Bramha the creator of the next cycle of creation by HARI , so enact the apsaras dancing to the tunes of gandharvas singing ode to the glorious qualities and  valorous acts describing the greatness of SHri VAyudev ..

elaboration –

Rujuganas are special type of Souls among the set foremost in the groups of Muktiyogyas . The other souls in course of their journey of life sometimes faulter in their conduct and act against the principle injunctions of Shastra . This is chiefly due to the possesion of daityas demons like KAli etc ..

Rujuganas do not have defects like such possessions of demons , thus they never fault er in their conduct . They always act in accordance with dharma and tread the path laid down by shastras in a perfect manner .. Thus they are knwon as rujus and their conduct is always auspicious and virtuous and hence the adjective  ‘ SUCHARIT “is apt for them ..

rujus are always engaged in the act of tapasya and seek on augmentation of  HARI anugraha [grace of LORD ] .. Among them BRAMHA has accumulated highest merit owing to tapasya of longest duration .. After Bramha . OH VAYUDEV ! you are the only next to be honoured with this reputation of having highest merit .. similarly LATAVYA occupies next position and GAVYA the next in succession .. Though they are all equals ,, owing to the length of duration of tapasya they were in since their manifestation into creation ,differentiates their position in subtle heirarchy . SO Bramha occupies the main throne of SATYALOKA .. and as Bramha attains Mukti in this creation , the next cycle of  creation sees Oh VAYUDEV ! yOu as the next BRAMHA .. thus Latvya becomes VAYU and GAVYA becomes LATAVYA .. so on so forth each of the rujus occupy their next preceding posts ..Thus this post of BRAMHA is the ownership of SATYALOKA , also the kingdom of entire 14 lokas , is occupied by each of ruju at some point in their sadhna and subsequently they attain MOKSHA .Thus this post of BRAMHA ie throne of Satyaloka is their selfrighteously their own place . thus it is reffered to as ‘ NIJAPADA’

Oh Vayudeva ! you are one among the ruju and hence you are addresed as one having sucharita and after present Bramha attains Moksha will occupy Satyaloka throne thus this throne is your Nijapada ..as you are the crown prince of this LOka .

You are seated on the throne befitting a crown prince . Your Throne is studded with precious jewels of all kinds . the rubies set in the throne is glowing and emanating rays as though many a  SUN have risen simultaneously at a time , the rays and glow of the throne is piercing the eyes of the beholder with its wonderful glare .

You are seated onto this throne , not like other princes of world would seat themselves with pride and ego ..But You have seated yourselves with a feeling expressing gratitude towards HARI that he has bestowed upon you the KINGDOM of 14 worlds to rule and its your duty to carry out his wishes and you are seated with complete awareness of HARi’s grace on you owing to which you have surrendered yourselves to him your mind only occupied with his thoughts and tears of joy flowing through your eyes as LORD  is visible to you in your mind , and YOu oh VAYUDEV recommending the welfare the HARIBHAKTAS [ devotees of LOrd ] and carrying out the necessary chores of RULE of Kingdom in accordance to such desires of welfare of Universe in complete humility and devotion of LORD , with gait full of all charm and capabilities befitting the Prince .this is addressed with adjective ‘SannishaNNAM’

Veda are Apourusheya ie not composed by any author and beginingless and others paurusheya compositions like moolramayana ,pancharatra agama etc composed by HARI in his avataras like vedvyasa and his disciples are collectively known as VIDYA . these Vidya have a deity incharge ,,all these deities incharge have a moolrupa which is completely potent and in full vigour ,,such primal presence is not everywhere in other lokas .. in other lokas these deities are visible partially and intermittently . But in satyaloka they are present in moolarupa in your service with complete devotion . as In one of your avataras You have resurrected these Vidyas from the abysmal commentaries they were subjected to by demons ,through beautiful commentaries  showing the true meaning and purpose of such shastras and Vidyas leading to LORD NARAYANA .and making these Vidyas a meaningful respected entity . You are exhibiting the full glory in this loka sitting on the throne , your wealth and possesions are unsurpassing greater than the prosperity of RUDRA and other deities in different lokas like maharloka and swargaloka . Thus BAGHAVAN is apt  description for you ..Thus sing the celestial nymphs of the court gatherings of the devatas dancing to the tunes sung by GANDHARVAS not only in satyaloka but each of such lokas and each of such gatherings .. As the nymphs enact the plays enumeration your stories of glorious avatars like HANUMAN BHEEMA AND MADHVACHARYA . oh Vayudeva beholding such a blisfull acts of Apsaras dancing  on songs of GAndharvas , devatas and rishis forget their minds and belongings completely immersed  in the bewitchment of your GLORY .

This I am not addressing you thus in a poetic manner composed  out of my imagination taking poetic liberty BUT the facts enumerated in above lines are supported by inifinite pramanas in vedas and shastra and thus your GLORY and fame is inexplicable and infinite to be summarised by a human effort . and hence poet Shri TRIVIKRAMAPANDITACHARYA adds a word ‘HI’ to the couplet to indicate that mahima of SHRIMANMADHVACHARYA cannot be expressed in mere words .

Krishnarpanmastu .

Comments on: "मध्वराय वैभव !" (185)

  1. Namaskar Acharya

    One thing very much intrigues me how come there are so many first generation Madhvas here particularly in my case I don’t have a clue How I got attracted here and an am still glued on so much so that it is slowly overtaking my life sometimes it feels good at others a bit overwhelming !!!

    We always had a pious atmosphere with an air of austerity as well at home, all that by grace of Parent’s antargata Hari. But we were largely ignorant towards philosophy and often embraced Vipareet gyana in form of S#% bhakti and what not. Its only after much wandering and grief I chanced upon this site like a thirsty person chances upon an Oasis. Further as Hrishikesh ji and others related how sometimes even our parents are susceptible to inaccurate approach towards religion. In my case I automatically start throwing a tantrum around as soon as there is a mention of S#% and I get full support but not from all the members, so much so that now S#% is almost out of our lives!! But I am not very proud of the means which we resort to i.e. tantrums, open disobedience and emotional atyachaar but I just cant help myself (engaging in vipareet gyan etc induces a lot of manovikaar and negative emotions)!! Elders are sometimes happy at our progress but also aggrieved by this constant war against vipareet gyana (collateral damage).

    Acharya though I am convinced its only our parents good deeds and upbringing which inspires us towards Hari and eventually towards Madhva Sampradaya why is it we found it so natural to adopt to Madhva sampradaya and our parents linger on to other alternatives. Further how can we make amends for putting our parents to grief (i definitely make life miserable for mine and would like to take concrete steps to reverse it).

    Sri HariVayuGurubhyo Namaha
    Sincere Pranaams

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  2. Dear Sir,
    whats the connection betn the ques?
    rama is vasudeva moxa prada rupa…..also rayaru’ upasya murthy……..so he too has earned the authority to bestow moxa as he also has vayu avesha…so rayaru is right choice guru for moxa…….right?

    sesa,indra ok. but viswaxena?? where is all this mentioned?. just for curiosity.

    sri krishnarpana.

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  3. Dear Sir,
    i have no words to thank you……..rayardu sulpa aumana agidre nanna kade inda aurge kshame kelkondu bidi…………..adre adad yella ayitu sridharana sevege sadhane sampat ayitu……..
    nange ishtu samshaya bardene irtidre ishtondu nimma inda kellike hege siktitri? rayar mele sulpu vakyartha nadadrunu ishtu krupe agatte andre…….idu aurdu mahime alve??

    yes i’ll do manan on what u said i’m getting a vague idea……..i’ll tell u what i could make out…..

    sri krishnarpana.

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  4. sarvashrestha dhanurdhar……….arjun
    avesha in rayaru……….vayu. some also include sesha devaru not sure of that.

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    • wrong answer ..

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      • as i expected……..

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      • let me try one more shot..panch vyuha of lord
        narayana sankarshana vasudeva pradyumna aniruddha……

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      • Guruji I see you answered above – and previously covered in your posts – or part of discussion “OUR GURU RAGHAVENDRA swamy” “had special VAYU AVESHA”
        The following post says
        https://chiraan.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/shree-raghavendra-suprabhaatam/
        “RAYARU has vishesha VAYU sannidhi , and all the devatas reside In RAYARA vrindavana … and praising Rayaru also becomes automatically the praise of LORD Pradyumna present as five fold HAYAGREEVA NARSIMHA KRISHNA RAAMA VEDVYASA in RAYARU to bless all the normal and aparoksha gyanis their desired on earth alnd that too instantly”

        So doesnt the devatas, HAYAGREEVA NARSIMHA KRISHNA RAAMA VEDVYASA also count as Avesha`s in Rayaru?

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  5. “if all that rayaru gives wealth health gyaana desires…………mine has been given back to me”
    no no Sir i did not mean that way………what i was saying shastra sternly says that from aproxa gyanis we must only ask for gyana bhakti vairagya……….bhoutik sukha should not be asked normally (aapat kaal is diff).
    in one of ur post u had said that rayaru stops giving phala after a period of time………coz he wants us to improve and ask for gyanadi phala instead. in HKAS dasaru says having kamdhenu if one uses its dung to smear his house then what a damn fool is he………asking for bhoutik sukha from rayaru is similar as he can give much more i.e gyana bhakti vairagya…….finally even aproxa.
    correct me if i’m wrong again.

    and in the previous post when i said a particular yoga is executed……….i forgot to add its through guru anugraha only………so rayaru has the main role there….pls tell me if this right.

    sri krishnarpana.

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  6. Dear Sir,
    thanks again for pointing out mistakes. i’m not underestimating any seva….no no…..may seem like that but not my intention…
    what my point was listening to discourses or reading books by scholars should also be on the list………
    if my point is wrong then only rayar seva is also enough??. this is an honest ques really………..so pls enlighten.

    sri krishnarpana.

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    • If someone would ask me .. I would say Rayar seva is enough …. reading and skills automatically follows …
      when we are in able hands .. all we must concentrate and put our efforts is in being tottally onepointed towards the guru ..{rayaru} and then because he is able guru he himself decides what should be our syllabus , how lessons should be structred what practicals need to be executed ,and finally how tests should be conducted and how ranking needs to be adjudged ,, if you introspect above ,, everything is done by guru only .. what did student do except follow guru .. and finally he is adjudged master of science, sarvasrestha dhanurdhar etc etc .. and guru is himslef proud of the student and he pats his back and says well done .. again guru himself praises .. what a guru krupa , guru teaches makes us understand and then tests and gives marks and passes and then praises .. everything only guru does … then who is best student one who is completely obedient to guru ..
      so conclusion is best mark is got if one is completely engrossed in guru .. how such a engrossing attitude comes …. GURU SEVA …
      so why waste time in self efforts ? instead spend most time in guru seva ….

      now pramana for my argument
      aru shastrava vodidarilla nooraru puranavu mugisiderilla
      saar nyaaya katha keliderilla dheeranangi ta pelidarilla
      guruvina gulaam naguva tanaka dorayedu anna mukuti …
      pari pari shastravu vodidarenu vyartha vayithu bhakuti
      korelalu male dharisidare illa beraalalu japamani yenisidare illa
      marulanaagita sharirake boodi varisikonduta tirugiridarilla
      ………guruvina gulaam naguva tanaka dorayedu anna mukuti …
      pari pari shastravu vodidarenu vyartha vayithu bhakuti

      naariya bhoga alisidareilla sharirake sukhava bidsidareilla
      naarad varada purandara vittalana serikondutha padeyuva tanaka
      doreyaddanna mukuti
      guruvina gulaam naguva tanaka dorayedu anna mukuti …
      pari pari shastravu vodidarenu vyartha vayithu bhakuti

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      • Dear Sir,
        thanks so much……..yeah but whats wrong with u…….u giving pramana for your argument !!! u think i don’t believe u? YOU are pramana for me…….

        i didn’t get it clearly. u had a vidya guru too, right? and many others from whom u learned many things……..what all i can make of is u got such extraordinary people to learn from by rayaru’s grace……ok. but here u say only rayar seva is enough…….well for this type a similar ex is of sri vrundavanacharya then pontiff of sode mutt who never read from anyone just did seva tp vadirajaru’ vrundavan and gained aproxa…..but its believed he is bhavi indra and many such examples like modalkal sesappa dasaru, krishnacharya, ibharampura appavru, many dasas all gained gyana instantly coz they were devamshas. thats what i thought………

        hence i made the statement of janmantar sadhana for humans……pls clarify. thank you.

        sri krishnarpana.

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        • No that statement that they got instant gyana because they were devamshas or they had poorvajanma etc etc .. actually ridicules the mahima of the gurus ..

          [ finally if we see all the gyana that we get is already inside our jeevaswarropa only then does that really remove the NARAYANA krupa of revealing it to us ] do manana on this .. may be you will understand what is he krupa behind the Guru seva leading to immense gyana ..

          It is KRUPA only that gives gyana not study vijjanna doreyaduanna mukuti inta matugalu adubaradu kannaya ..RAYARA krupa is got by pure grace of RAYARU himself [ pradymna namak HARI ] …

          EVEN when APAROXA tiroddhana happens ,. there is no rule that it should come back .. why LORD can keep soul in agyaana for some more time and much more time …. who can challenge .. and worst still jeeva himself is in ignorance [ see purandar dasaru .. ajamila etc ]

          BUT GURU bestows krupa … he strives to give knowledge and gain back lost ground .. that is krupa …

          say for example a graduate boy forgets ab cd …
          now try teaching him a b c d again ..how many years he will take to become a graduate … NOW if someone just weaves a wand and says now you are graduate again .. and the patient becomes a graduate again .. whose mahima is it patients earlier education or magic ..?

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      • I would like to ask two questions to the readers ..

        1> who is sarvashreshtha Dhanurdhar ?
        2> what are the aveshas in RAYARU ?

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      • When the Chala murty of Shriman NArayana himself is in front of us, where else one should look !! Guru bhakti alone ensures vaikuntha .. Guru is abode of all granthas and shastras. A Guru is the nearest Narayana swaroopa receptive to our Sadhana (Rayaru, Acharya, Brahmins, Mata Pita, Elders.) Can Guru mahima be put in finite words !! Not IMO… Even the silence of Guru is Gyana … Manana of Guru is Dhyana.

        For those of you who have missed … pl do read this…

        http://chiraan.blogspot.in/2009/01/slavery-to-guru-ensures-mukti.html

        Regards
        k

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      • Also this blog is pravachana itself of our Acharya. Imagine if it was written in kannada to begin with… the vada would not have been beyond people knowing kannada. But is that the real boundary of dwaita ? No wonder people from north india like Me, shuchi, kunal and others have benefited by the saralta of the language here. It is the gnana that takes precedence over the language. Rayaru knows all languages. Yet His inspiration is based on Vaishnavism, dwaita, hari preeti only… What has language got to do with it ! We are in the age where the best language to understand Shastras i.e. even Sanskrit is not so prevalent. Does that mean people who do not know Sanskrit should have no access to Hari bhakti via Gnana ?

        I knew tooti footi sanskrit but that was not enough to make me understand all the verses. Without Guru pravachana, nothing enters my head. But since i got initiated into Sadachar by Acharya, i get inquisitive to know more into language also and i frequently open up Sanskrit dictionaries to understand more.. But the ignition point of all this was Guru Pravachana in the language i understood.. i.e. english and hindi…

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      • The best example I can think of is Diwan Venkanna, the way his life is turned around by Guru’s grace. I always remember that incident when I am in trouble and remember Guru Raghavendra.

        I remember once Chiraanji had said that in the initial phase of spirituality, we need to do physical seva… like pradakshina seva, thirtha sandarshana etc….. and after progressing, the emphasis shifts to doing more japa and less of physical seva.

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  7. @kalyaniji,
    i agree with shuchiji again, we all r madhwas thats what matters. so no need to feel out of place.
    for madhwa pravachanas in hindi all i can say is wait for acharya’s channel !!

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